@eu_os @fedora @kde @almalinux @zendis @EC_OSPO the same #France that illegally phished data from #EncroChat users in a means to allow #dutch police to bypass a #Dutch court decision that banned them from doing so?
@eu_os @fedora @kde @almalinux @zendis @EC_OSPO the same #France that illegally phished data from #EncroChat users in a means to allow #dutch police to bypass a #Dutch court decision that banned them from doing so?
@adisonverlice it's not just re: #Governments (tho #Project2025 explicitly endorses unsactioned comms to twart attempts at #FIOA or any #accountability for that matter), but individuals or any organization:
And if #EncroChat got pwned, who's gonna guarantee @signalapp won't if it's actually secure or isn't an #InsideJob like #ANØM.
After all, both #Signal's Organization and key people like @Mer__edith are known to the authorities by more than just their legal name.
After all, Signal can't pull the 5th and refuse to comply!
Interessant wie wie nen #Rechtsanwalt und wie @tagesschau das gleiche #EuGH -Urteil werten!
Interestingly, the whole #EncroChat penetration got cut short due to a snitching snitch, I guess...
https://www.europesays.com/uk/13122/ ‘I want his face melted’ sickening messages of ruthless EncroChat’s AceProspect #Britain #Courts #Crime #EncroChat #England #GreatBritain #Liverpool #UK #UnitedKingdom #Warrington
"Ich bitte nicht um eine Hintertür, ich erwarte die Vordertür!"
Damit ist alles zur #Verfassungsfeindlichkeit von "#Strafverfolgern" wie Europol gesagt!
#Signal was as secure as claimed, it would've been shut down like #EncroChat, #SkyECC & others...
Just stop the BS. EncroChat was specifically built and marketed for criminals. It wasn't shut down by law enforcement, it was hacked by the French police, after which they decided to shut the service down themselves.
Signal is open source (and the issue regarding reproducible builds is known, but it doesn't impact the security of the app. It is caused by a navigation library that causes some race condition during the build process, the result of which is dependent on CPU speed. They are aware of the issue, and are working to fix it. It is tracked here: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/13565). If you don't trust the official build, you can compile it yourself. There are also forks like Signal-FOSS or @mollyim available if you prefer that.
The server is also open source (of course you can't verify if they are actually running that code, but that's gonna be the case for every application with a client/server architecture. Your point regarding Signal being "proprietary SaaS" is, again, total BS.
@signalapp It's not #disinfo when one points out that you demand #PII aka. #PhoneNumbers from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your #proprietary & #Centralized #Infrastructure.
Not to mention the lack of @torproject / #Tor support with an #OnionService or the willingness to fulfill #cyberfacist "Embargoes" or shilling a #Shitcoin #Scam named #MobileCoin!
And don't get me started on the #cyberfacism that is #CloudAct.
I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but #Signal stenches like #ANØM: #Honeypot-esque!
@signalapp I disagree because your platform is #proprietary, #SingleVendor, #SingleProvider and doesn't allow for #SelfHosting, #SelfCustody of all the Keys and you demand #PII in the form of a #PhoneNumber which can be used.to track users down!
@alwayscurious @froge @fj #CloudAct alone not, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.
Again: The only #security is #decentralization!
#Signal is as vulnerable as #EncroChat if it's not a #Honeypot like #ANØM!
@froge @fj I'm not replacing @signalapp with "random tools" but good options.
Like @delta & @thunderbird as well as @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim which work flawlessly over @torproject / #Tor using @tails / @tails_live / #Tails and @guardianproject / #Orbot respectably.
Considering the costs of even acquiring and upkeeping an #anonymous #SIM, I'd rather pay €2 p.m. for #XMPP+#OMEMO and #PGP/MIME-supported #eMail with the option of self-custody than $2,50+ p.m. just to keep a phone number.
Or is anyone here expecting @Mer__edith to risk jail for life amd not comply with #CloudAct?
It stenches like #ANØM, because NOTHING IS FOR FREE and running a #VCmoneyBurningParty is expensive...
@osman If your #OpSec, #InfoSec, #ComSec and/or #ITsec relies on @signalapp and/or @Mer__edith risking jail or worse, you fucked up!
Seriously, to me #Signal stenches #Honeypot like #ANØM & #CryptoAG.
That's why I get people setup with it!
@Catwoman69y2k @dragonfriend most importantly:
Only with #SelfCustody of all the keys, #SelfHosting of the entire infrastructure and everything being #OpenSource, one can assure (and [let it be] audit[ed] independently) that the #advertised #promises are in fact true.
Cuz not expecting @Mer__edith to break is the same level of "#TrustMeBro!" assurances as #ANØM, #EncroChat, #SkyECC, #WhatsApp etc. do in their #advetising #lies!
@Mik3y @samhainnight @karlauerbach @alex_p_roe @Nonilex not to mention all the #GAFAMs and #TechBros who get to know that #CloudAct means they'll have to integrate more #Govware #Backdors and enable #BulkSurveillance or get shut down & jailed faster than they can say #EncroChat or #SkyECC...
Yes indeed, former Defence Secretary. And law enforcement/intelligence agencies use those tools too (see #Encrochat in particular.) So exactly what data is it the
cops/spooks can’t get access to due to Apple’s #ADP? #TCN https://x.com/BenWallace70/status/1893936296747221279
@erebion @inaruck genau das ist der Falsche Ansatz, da Threat Models sich ständig verschieben und nicht ausgegangen werden kann, dass es dabei bleibt.
Keine*r deloyed drölfzig Messenger oder migriert bedarfsweise User*innen umher.
Also the blatant dismissal of absolitely basic #OpSec & #ComSec is just flabberghasting.
Only #decentralized, #OpenSource & #OpenStandards can actuall survive long-term and remain #secure.
It's the same reasons we use #PGPG/MIME & #SSH and not #X400 & #X25!
IOW: Think "How can you weaponize Signal?" and see what you csn do just holding key people in contempt...
The less #info a provider has, the less they can be forced to snitch upon customers.
"#JustUseSgnal!" is a form of dangerous "#TechPopulism" aimed at bamboozling #TechIlliterates who don't know better, abusing information asymetry to pull rank instead of investing the time and effort to *explain "how" and "why" this is indeed a good or bad idea.
The only ones that have a chance to beat that are @delta / #deltaChat but that's just #PGP/MIME #eMail in a nice UI...
@Zoll wisst ihr was deutlich effektiver wäre?
Wenn das Zeug #legal kontrolliert abgegeben würde (bspw. #Apotheke) denn dann würden die Leute sich nicht Dreck reinkloppen sondern sauberen Stoff haben und #OrganisierteKriminalität ginge leer aus.
Cc: @Bundesregierung @bmg@social.bund.de
Apropos "Hinweise aus dem Ausland", wird interessant wie das so #rechtstaatlich aussieht...
@compl4xx @Layer8 @nick @kuketzblog @marcel @mspro
Meine Rede...
Oder um es einfach zu erklären: Warum gibt es #HTTP(S) & #HTML sowie #eMail ( #IMAP & #SMTP) bis heute und keiner nutzt mehr #AOL, #MSN, #ICQ?
Wenn @signalapp / #Signal wegen #CloudAct geflipped wird wie #EncroChat, #ANØM & #SkyECC dann stehen Leute alternativlos in der shice ubd die ganzen "Sicherheitsversprechen" lösen sich in "#TrustMeBro!" und #Lügen auf.
Ich nutze meinen XMPP-Account seit Ewigkeiten und habe drölfzig Clients durch. Aber Kontakte erreichen mich darüber Problemlos!