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Stop wriggling. Which society manages without hierarchy?
Here's an example from modern day Louisiana:
"These people came together to build these incredible monuments, and according to the archaeological evidence, they did it in the absence of any kind of institutional hierarchy, wealth differences, or intensive agricultural systems. All of that was once thought to be a prerequisite for social complexity.”
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Ah yes, a mound building culture, of which we have no other record
This is Rousseau-ian horseshit: “In native political philosophy, power works for the collective, not the individual,”
Every native American culture of which I am aware had a hierarchical structure. Name one which didn't
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The Neolithic culture which build Göbekli Tepe in Anatolia lived a considerable distance from this perhaps-a-temple complex. Like the Poverty Point culture, it didn't live there.
Just because they didn't build a palace doesn't mean they didn't have a hierarchy. Those mounds would have required an intricate hierarchy to get the people there, feed them, house them.
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Folks spending years researching the society:
"These people came together to build these incredible monuments, and according to the archaeological evidence, they did it in the absence of any kind of institutional hierarchy, wealth differences, or intensive agricultural systems.”
I'll trust them, even though you once saw a murder.
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You just do that, Kyle, armed with your proof from the negative, that because there were no palaces these mound builders were some Rousseau-ian Noble Savages.
You can't prove a negative, Kyle. Someone organized those mound builders.
Kinda moving the goalposts here a bit aren't we?
You asked for one example but won't take the literal word of experts as an example? No, it's not proof--it's the best guess of the current experts, which is as good as it gets in the social sciences.
What evidence would you need to change your view? Where is the goalpost for you on this belief? (Always a good question to ask ourselves, I find.)
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Shrug. You need to go back 3000 years, and you haven't addressed this conjecture's basis at all. Answer the questions you were asked first, then we can talk about goalposts, Kyle
You'te not even on the same playing field.