@holger die #Handyäpp ist nur 100MiB groß und die #Molly Fork sogar nur ~80 (eine "gehärtete"Version mit paar Änderungen).

@GrapheneOS @mj1982 result of my first test: #molly actually needs signiticantly less battery than the official #signal app on #googlefree #grapheneos devices. Awesome :-)

@GrapheneOS @mj1982 interesting. #molly consumes less battery than #signal on a device without google services? That sounds promising! I'll try that one as soon as possible.

@tuell @netzpolitik_feed da wird auch viel seltsames Zeug postuliert.
Hier zwei möglicherweise interessante links dazu:
https://www.security-insider.de/signal-vs-telegram-sicherheitsvorwuerfe-a-9003c2635df158e27f09356af78ad4cd/

https://www.security-insider.de/streit-der-messenger-chefs-signal-telegram-die-fakten-a-4402c6d3199db4c9a67e3141dafefa7e/

Alternativ gibt es für #android User die Signal-Fork #molly. @kuketz beschreibt es hier gut:
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/messenger-wechsel-von-signal-zu-molly-unifiedpush-mollysocket-ntfy/

Ergänzend:

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/whatsapp-ade-signal-und-threema-ueberzeugen-als-sichere-alternativen/

Jetzt haben sie #Molly königsblau gemacht, hä?

@GlenRambo
This was a #molly specific change and not in the official signal. Molly did this change in the last release, I believe, and apparently is not a very popular change. There is a feature request in the molly repo to revert this change back to original dark theme. (github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android/issues/447)

@scy They're all pretty bad. Threema has some major issues with their encryption protocol: https://infosec.exchange/@Fiona@blahaj.zone/114083506772906117

Delta Chat outright lacks forward secrecy, and also doesn't use post-quantum cryptography.

XMPP and IRC are a mess, and essentially unusable for less technical users.
When considering or recommending a messenger, always ask yourself: Would your grandma be able to use it? If she encountered some issue, would she be able to find someone, other than you, who could fix it? That unfortunately rules out a bunch of messengers.

I think best option is to use the @mollyim client for Signal. The second best choice would be @simplex

@ploum @nitot

Est-ce que cela ne dépend pas de ce qui est couvert par « quitter la France » ?

Si c'est enlever l'application des boutiques d'applications pour les utilisateurs français, OK, je vois (mais de toute façon j'utilise personnellement #Molly depuis #fdroid ).

Si ça coupe l'accès aux serveurs depuis une adresse IP française (par exemple), se dépêcher d'installer ne changera rien, n'est-ce pas ?

@chewie By using Signal-FOSS or Molly-FOSS you just force the Signal app to use its WebSockets-based notification fallback mechanism. But if you have Play services installed and have granted them network permissions, you might as well just use FCM for notifications. It saves battery life compared to each app maintaining its own background network connection.

If you're using @mollyim you also have a third option for receiving notifications: @unifiedpush

But since Signal doesn't support it natively, you need a mollysocket server that receives the Signal notifications and translates them into UnifiedPush format. The mollysocket server is connected to your Signal account as a linked device, but it does not have your decryption keys. There are public instances of mollysocket like mollysocket.adminforge.de

The easiest and best way to get started with UnifiedPush (IMO) is the recently released Sunup distributor app.